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  Who else had to sit though last weeks WT study, 6th Jan 2019 - "Buy Truth and Never Sell It"

  by skin in

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  that title, “buy truth and never sell it”.

  is that not our goal has jw’s, to try to sell the truth to those who have the right heart condition to accept it?.

  para 9: “when the fishermen peter and andrew were invited by jesus to become “fishers of men,” they “abandoned their nets.” (matt.

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  Lost in the fog

  The one I wondered about was "One day while walking drunk along the road, Jasmine met two Witness missionaries. The missionaries arranged for a Bible study."

  Presumably the missionaries weren't getting much success in their ministry that when they spot a violent aggressive drunk - they offer a Bible Study. Would you, really?

  Then the fact that when they call the couple are still drunk, so they arrange to come back again. Obviously they have no other people to call on, because if they had they'd prioritise and the drunks would not be top of their list. Personally I think it is another made up story.
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  WT has another 91 million for lawsuit payments now

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  the last sale of their most valuable asset.

  https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2018/12/21/fortis-pays-91-million-for-former-watchtower-parking-lot/.

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  Lost in the fog

  But didn't you catch the day's text for Wednesday January 9 (Vomiting).

  Everything was numbered and weighed, and all the weight was recorded.​—Ezra 8:34.

  With prayerful consideration, the Governing Body strives to be faithful and discreet with regard to how the organization’s funds are used. (Matt. 24:45) The funds that are received are budgeted and spent accordingly. (Luke 14:28) The apostle Paul collected funds as a relief ministration for the brothers in Judea. He took steps to ensure that those delivering the funds cared for “everything honestly, not only in the sight of Jehovah but also in the sight of men.” (2 Cor. 8:18-21) Imitating the examples of Ezra and Paul, our organization today follows strict procedures when it comes to handling and spending donated funds. (Ezra 8:24-33) In recent years, there have been many exciting new initiatives. The organization looks for ways to reduce expenses and simplify the work so as to be able to accomplish the most that it can with your generous donations.
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  Cutting the ties which bind.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following article is about getting away from toxic family members.

  but it equally can apply to cutting off any toxic person or group of people.

  looking at the 5 points for identifying such toxic people - i have seen or experienced every one of them inside the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Lost in the fog

  The following article is about getting away from toxic family members. But it equally can apply to cutting off any toxic person or group of people.

  Looking at the 5 points for identifying such toxic people - I have seen or experienced every one of them inside the congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. As I am sure you have as well.

  https://lessonslearnedinlife.com/enough-is-enough-when-its-okay-to-cut-family-members-out-of-your-life-2/
  
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  Enlighten me If you can

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  confusing standards or hodge podge?.

  what is this about beards i never got the hang of from day one?

  are beards ok or not?.

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  WATCHTOWER SEPTEMBER 2016. Page 21, Paragraph 17.

  17. What are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?

  17 What about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard? The Mosaic Law required men to wear a beard. However, Christians are not under the Mosaic Law, nor are they obliged to observe it. (Lev. 19:27; 21:5; Gal. 3:24, 25) In some cultures, a neatly trimmed beard may be acceptable and respectable, and it may not detract at all from the Kingdom message. In fact, some appointed brothers have beards. Even so, some brothers might decide not to wear a beard. (1 Cor. 8:9, 13; 10:32) In other cultures or localities, beards are not the custom and are not considered acceptable for Christian ministers. In fact, having one may hinder a brother from bringing glory to God by his dress and grooming and his being irreprehensible.​—Rom. 15:1-3; 1 Tim. 3:2, 7.
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  Active JW's: If asked, can you explain/defend this belief?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as all jw's and awakened ex-jw's know, the very existence of the religion is dependent on people's belief that the "holy trinity" of the wtbts, the ccojw, and the governing body (aka the organization) were personally selected by god/christ.. 1) mr. rutherford claimed that this divine choosing occurred circa 1919, and that all anointed members were personally chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  2) in 2013 this long-held, "profound scriptural truth" was discarded by apostates in brooklyn (the present-day governing body) when they personally decided that only gb members were chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  (wt july 2013, p.22, par.

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  @Nitty-gritty.

  The idea that by being baptised into their religion means agreeing with all that they teach runs into a problem.

  The teaching keeps changing! The teachings a person accepted without challenge at the time of their baptism, might have been thrown out and are now no longer acceptable. But the jw cannot now openly disagree with the party line or will be made to face the consequences.

  Secondly, at baptism we all agreed that we would be an ordained minister in harmony with "God's spirit-directed organisation". When we discover much later that God's spirit is not leading the F&DS we either cancel our membership and stop ministering, or (pimo) hide out all the while keeping our heads down and not actively stirring the pot.

  It's a very sad state for any one to be living in. Fear of men (GB and Elders), who you unknowingly handed over your power to when you said "yes" to those baptism questions so long ago.
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  Library now cleared out

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
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  well, it looks like the axe has finally fallen on our kh library.

  during a deep clean of the local kh, a brother suddenly informed everyone 'whikst cleaning' that all the old books including bound volumes of the watchtower etc was to be chucked in the skip.. from what i heard, some were taken aback by this and quite annoyed that no announcement was made; that no one was given the choice of taking some of these books home to keep.

  i mean the entire collection of studies in the scriptures and others that go back an entire century.

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  It's been done throughout the island of Ireland.
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  Mental Illness isn't limited to the Human Race.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  a former friend of ours who lives in ireland posted this link recently about animals and mental illness.

  seems humans are not so different from the animal world at all.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20150909-many-animals-can-become-mentally-ill .

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  A former friend of ours who lives in Ireland posted this link recently about animals and mental illness. Seems humans are not so different from the animal world at all.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20150909-many-animals-can-become-mentally-ill
  
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  Christmas arrogance

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the witness rebuttals that is used to belittle the christmas holiday is the one where they say that people reduce jesus christ to being just a baby in a manger, whereas the witnesses recognize him as a mighty king, a much more accurate and current way to view jesus.

  a baby in a manger is a sweet sight on any day, it's true, but more is going on than meets the eye in the case of jesus.

  this particular baby is the first baby to have been born without an earthly father, the immaculate conception.

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  And while Jesus should be hailed as a heavenly king, he is presented as being a chief angel called Michael instead.
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  Yet another example why you can't reason with a JW

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  so i mentioned to my pimi brother that the org.

  only grew by 1.4 % 2 years in row and if you factor in the birthrate of 1.1 % that's only 3/10 of 1% growth for all that hard work.

  i thought people would be streaming to the mountain of jehovah in the last days?

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  Lost in the fog

  When they say that they read it in the Watchtower therefore it must be true I reply saying I don't believe in conspiracy theories.

  Conspiracy theory? 1 or 2 do ask.

  Yes, the theory based on regularly revised made up prophecy that the world is ending anytime soon.
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  Memories from the Edge

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when waking up it often isn't an instant switch, there's a period of time when your conflicted feelings are heightened and most uncomfortable.

  can anyone remember specific instances in the time before you fully woke up that made you uncomfortable or guilty, despite you still being a 'believer'?.

  i can think of two right now, both about a year or two before i woke up:.

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  Lost in the fog

  WillYouDFme, your comment is identical to my own experiences. It is hard to stop after being used to public speaking at elders schools, assemblies etc. But comes the realisation that we were only regurgitating what we were told to use, even where it made no logical sense. Like the men of old looking to the heavenly kingdom but twisting the scripture to say that it was an earthly kingdom because they wouldn't be in heaven. I couldn't believe that.

  And Jesus as Michael the archangel never made sense in light of Hebrews 1.

  The troubles in our congregation made me want to run away before I knocked somebody's teeth in. I still feel hurt over the nasty way I was treated by men that I had helped along in the truth. But I have freedom of choice now to do what I want to do not looking over my shoulder in case I was being watched or recorded.

  Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you all.